Monday, October 29, 2007

Tim's Question Answered

When you have a chemical reaction, let's say  2H2 + O2 + spark ->2 H2O, has new information been generated?   It hasn't.

There is simply a rule in the universe that says when you mix oxygen, hydrogen and a spark to start the reaction, water is formed.    This rule already existed in the universe.

Let's say a chemist forms a brand new compound.  He finds that some elements mixed under certain conditions form a compound that was unknown to science before.  No new information has been added to the universe.  A rule of the universe that was already present has been discovered

Different from discovering something is inventing something.  When something has been invented, you have the creation of something that is not inherently implicit in the rules of the physical universe.  This means that some information has been channeled from a realm that is different from the physical realm.

Darwinists, in order to provide ideological support for atheism and communism, will claim that an evolution process exists that is neither a process of discovery nor the extraction of information from a different realm.  In reality, natural selection describes a process of discovery.  In other words, the shape and functioning of all the animals would be "compressed" into the basic physical laws of the universe.

I believe that life on earth is more than a process of discovery.  It is the expression ideas created in a spiritual realm.  The exact process of creating and expressing these ideas has not been studied in detail, at least by the scientific community, because reasoning runs counter their ideological beliefs.

1 comment:

Fritz the Cat said...

"In other words, the shape and functioning of all the animals would be 'compressed' into the basic physical laws of the universe."

This is more or less my point in the above comment, and you don't refute it. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, or how it is different from the "process of discovery" mentioned earlier.

"I believe that life on earth is more than a process of discovery. It is the expression ideas created in a spiritual realm. The exact process of creating and expressing these ideas has not been studied in detail, at least by the scientific community, because reasoning runs counter their ideological beliefs."

Actually, the reason these ideas are not studied scientifically is because, by definition, it is not possible. If the spiritual realm were physically detectable with instruments of any kind, it would cease to be spiritual, would it not? Or could this spiritual realm pop in and out of reality long enough to be detected?

If you are going to say something like this, you have to use a word more descriptive than "spiritual," since that can mean an entirely different thing to everyone who reads it. I take "supernatural" away from it, which (as I said) cannot be measured by natural means for obvious reasons.

If by "spiritual" you mean "beyond current scientific explanation," then I think you are mistaken. In fact, that is precisely what science seeks to study. You don't see scientists toiling in a laboratory to RE-prove established fact. Scientists seek to know the unknown, and if there was ever a quantitative way to observe or measure this "spirit realm" then you can bet your creationist boots that they would be doing it.